Thursday, February 04, 2010

Gutter Politics: Liberals Playing Games @Pro-Abortion Position

When there are so many obvious practical steps that can be taken to promote maternal and child health throughout the world, it is sad to see Mr. Ignatieff introduce into the discussion this negative proposal, which in no way serves to improve the health of mothers or children, but which rather imperils the most vulnerable among us.-Archbishop Thomas Collins

The appointed Liberal leader owes Canadians an apology for playing "gutter" politics with demanding we act like a colonial empire with our foreign aid. He is wrong.

Stephen Taylor has a great post on it.

It should also be noted that the only leadership of any party to try and reopen the debate on abortion in recent memory has been that of the Liberal Party, mostly as a wedge issue to imply that the Conservatives have a hidden agenda on social issues. If merely revisiting the Canadian abortion debate is a slippery slope for pro-choice activists, why applaud Liberals when they keep bringing it up and condemn Conservatives for their non-agitation on the issue?In reality, this move by Ignatieff reflects desperation. The abortion maneuver by Liberals is always done when the Liberals have nothing left to talk about. In this case, the Conservatives should deprive Ignatieff of oxygen on the issue and ignore it completely for the cheap attempt that it is.-Stephen Taylor



The Liberals repeated this mistake with a state funeral trying to drive a wedge between the government and Catholics.  

Social Background Characteristics: The Shrinking Liberal Core
The Liberals were able to coast to victory in 2000 with the support of two key groups:
visible minorities and Catholics. By 2008, the Liberals could no longer count on their loyalty.
The visible minority vote dropped 14 points between 2000 and 2004 (see Figure 2).
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The main
beneficiary was the NDP. The Liberals did not lose any further ground in 2006, but in 2008, they
lost a massive 19 points. And now it was the Conservatives who benefited. In fact, minority
voters were almost as likely to vote Conservative in 2008 as they were to vote Liberal

The Anatomy of The Liberal Defeat
Social Background Characteristics: The Shrinking Liberal Core

The Liberals were able to coast to victory in 2000 with the support of two key groups: visible minorities and Catholics. By 2008, the Liberals could no longer count on their loyalty. The visible minority vote dropped 14 points between 2000 and 2004.





The Catholic vote tells a similar story. Catholic support has dropped a massive 24 points since 2000. In 2006, Catholics were as likely to vote Conservative as Liberal.

In 2008, they clearly actually preferred the Conservatives to the Liberals. Controlling for other social background characteristics reveals that the drop in Liberal support among Catholics is even more dramatic than the loss of visible minority votes. According to our estimations, in 2000 the probability of voting Liberal was 15 points higher among Catholics than among non-Catholics; by 2008, it was only five points higher.



Is it any wonder why so many groups are no longer voting for the Liberals?



3
The main
beneficiary was the NDP. The Liberals did not lose any further ground in 2006, but in 2008, they
lost a massive 19 points. And now it was the Conservatives who benefited. In fact, minority
voters were almost as likely to vote Conservative in 2008 as they were to vote Liberal

8 comments:

wilson said...

I guess internal polls told Iffy that there are more Dipper votes that could move to the Libs than religious votes.....

gimbol said...

The correct response to Iggy's erruption is ridicule.

Why should anyone be surprised, this fits right in with their advocacy for legalized pot, regulated prostitution, and biodegradable sex toys. Using abortion as a method of contraception would seem perfectly normal to them.

Bec said...

"Gutter Politics for Liberals, please refer to the Puke Green Book", heard in closed Liberal caucus meetings, daily.
Additional manuals on how to aid and abet, sent to preferred MSM enablers with a couple dozen cocktail vouchers to the favorite drinking hole attached.

The problem is, Donollo was a communications guy during a woosie political cakewalk. He is not advising this anointed and abysmal politician well and his Liberal corruptness ans sleaze is starting to slowly ooze out.
Like most poison does eventually from an abscess.

UsualSuspect said...

As a wedge issue, this comes out of left field and at a 45 degree angle.

He is as likely to rap his own knuckles on this as not.

Even the most narcissistic of Liberals must be queasy about this radically new abortion is contraception position, not to mention his own pro life caucus.

The Tories are right to ignore him while the silent sensible majority judges him appropriately.

The_Iceman said...

I'm running through some election "war games" on my election matrix. Question; if the NDP pulled candidates in all ridings where they finished behind the Liberals and the Liberals did the same, what would be the new seat count? Assuming even that 100% of Lib and dipper voters vote for the coalition candidate in all ridings.

The answer might interest you.

But I also want to address Chantal Hebert going bananas on at issue today. The answer to this alleged Charest--Prentice feud is that the new Quebec legislation is terrible economic policy. It could collapse the Quebec automotive market. It is not "bashing" the people of Quebec, it is pointing out that the people of Quebec may be agitated driving to Ontario or New Brunswick to buy a new car.

I suppose Charest could impose tarrifs on cars purchased out of province. I'm sure Ontario will love that, and if I were to criticize that would it be an attack on Quebec's people? Chantal, give your head a shake!

I've got to get back to work!

CanadianSense said...

Iceman,

Follow the Money!

Zenn Car= Quebec Protectionist Trade Policy*
Gov't grants $ 4k
Job Production Saint-Jerome QC

The QC gov't bet big on COP15 and we would buy electric cars.

The added penalty for fossil emmission car provide the Zenn with a monopoly in QC.

Last year they did the same with winter tires becoming mandatory. It drove the local market crazy.

Market manipulation by the gov't compliment of the Provincial Pension Fund (Caisse)

No Public Inquiry for Caisse on their investments.

CanadianSense said...

Bec, Usual Suspect, Gimbol, Wilson,

The Liberals ran campaigns calling reformers un-Canadian. Chretien did NOT visit Alberta during his campaign. They mocked them as right wing extremists influenced by the right wing idelogical neo-con movement in the US.
It was the Ontario-Quebec card vs the West. In 2000 over 50% voted for that public messaging. It won't work anymore. They played the fear and divide game to secure their last majority.
They have citied the hidden agenda repeatedly but it has not worked after 2000.
The HOC is missing over 35 seats, 15 from BC, AB and 23 from Ontario.

The 905 are overdue seats and the Liberals-Bloc unity game is over. The West has won. It is time we reflect the growth and population shifts outside Quebec and Toronto!

The "firewall" is giving Alberta the same programs, services other provinces have. A provincial police force and creating a provincial counter to Caisse.

I am in favour of each province having their own firewall (accountable) to provide better service and keep costs in line with the taxes of the priorities of its citizens.
It looks like BC may dump the RCMP with all the bad press for a provincial model!

CanadianSense said...

Note the 50% was in Ontario with capturing 100 seats. Now the Liberals no longer hold the clear option for Ontario voters. After Dalton many of the seats outside Toronto are off the Liberal kool-aid.

The largest Public Unions, special interest groups and media don't have significant ground forces capacity outside the large city limits.

The Battleground is Ontario in 2010-2011. The CPC need to add 10 and hope the NDP hold their gains.

The need to pick up another 10 seats outside Ontario for a healthy majority.

A slim majority 1-2 seats could be a logistical nightmare.